Sunday, June 05, 2005

 

People start to notice the torturing...

Alot (more than one) of news concerning the treatment of detainees in the US system. Oh hell, let me say it like it is: people are getting pissed the US tortures Muslims.
Start with Rights group leader says U.S. has secret jails.
The chief of Amnesty International USA alleged Sunday that the Guantanamo Bay detention camp is part of a worldwide network of U.S. jails, some of them secret, where prisoners are mistreated and even killed.


Combine with Sen Biden urges Guantanamo closure.
A leading Senator and member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee has said that the US should close its detention centre at Guantanamo Bay.

Democrat Senator Joseph Biden said the controversy over the camp put Americans at risk from terrorism rather than protecting them from it.
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Guantanamo "has become the greatest propaganda tool that exists for recruiting of terrorists around the world and it is unnecessary to be in that position", Mr Biden said.
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his words reflect an anxious debate here about the treatment of detainees and how it reflects on America's image in the world.


Add to that, tonight's 60 Minutes, Justice At Guantanamo?.
Two months after 9/11, President Bush issued a military order that said that any foreigner he believes might be a terrorist or might help a terrorist could be tried for war crimes by military commissions.

They have been shut down because of a suit filed against the president by a member of what may seem like an unlikely group of opponents: U.S. military lawyers.

Navy Lt. Cmdr. Charlie Swift is one of the team of military lawyers appointed by the Pentagon to defend those accused of being the nation’s worst enemies.

Does he believe that the prisoners in Guantanamo are getting a fair shake? "Under the rules, as they're written right now, no way," says Swift. "The rules are written from the -- to make every possible accommodation for the prosecutor, with no thought to, 'Does this jeopardize a right of the accused?'"
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"You disobeyed your commander-in-chief," says Correspondent Ed Bradley.

"Yeah, I did," says Swift. "But I didn't do so lightly. I did it because there was no other choice."

Last November, a federal judge agreed with Swift, ruling the commissions are unlawful because they are "fatally contrary" to established standards of justice. The government is appealing.
This guy gets it
Gunn, a graduate of the Air Force Academy, Harvard Law School, and a former White House fellow, says
"We have a system, we have a system of justice. We hold ourselves up as the greatest nation on earth, because we say we are controlled by law as opposed to men," says Gunn. "If we can stand by that, but also live it out when we're threatened, then we've done a great thing."


Fox seems to be trying to get Amnesty International to sound like they might
ease up a little,
Reuters.
Amnesty International USA said on Sunday the group doesn't "know for sure" that the military is running a "gulag."
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Executive Director William Schulz recently dubbed Rumsfeld an "apparent high-level architect of torture" in asserting he approved interrogation methods that violated international law.

"It would be fascinating to find out. I have no idea," Schulz told Fox News Sunday.

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